I did some surfing on Epicor's website and checked out their forthcoming Vista 8.0. I'm impressed! Looks like it took to rev 8 but maybe they got it right this time :) It supports Visual Studio .NET 2003, .NET Framework, and all SOA (Service Oriented Architecture) based. NICE! It's also got support for wireless, CE devices, and a bunch of SLICK integration programs that I'd have had to write myself and customize. Good work, Epicor. Now to convince my company that the upgrade IS a necessary growing pain.